Report 1: Reports from some countries
Bad all over. We had
thought it couldn't become worse - it became worse. A kind of hysteria is still
sweeping the country, resulting in among other things prosecution of many people
even in other countries, especially the English speaking countries, but also
Some ex-prisoners had
abducted and murdered little girls. Although there are laws that forbid this,
politicians use this kind of incident to make all laws more severe. It
started with Megan's Law, demanding registration and publishing the names
of all sex offenders. Now, there are Megan's Laws (plural):
State after state made such laws, differing from one state to another. Now there
is a federal (national) register on line, giving the name, address and
conviction of all sex offenders. Some states send post cards with the name,
address and photo of a released sex offender to the neighbourhood. For those
released offenders, it is in practice not possible to live anywhere and to
rebuild their life, which is their right after release. …That is, if
they are released anyway: a lot of them are declared mentally ill and are placed
in closed institutions life long. The most recent initiatives are proposals to
ban such people from the community and to place them in separate camps, which
also has been proposed for AIDS or HIV
Note, that "a sex
offender" in the US can even be a quite young child who has played doctors
and nurses. Everyone can become "a sex offender" and that's the end of
all of her or his rights.
Counter voices come from
activists for civil liberties, for free speech and for 'due process', which says
that a court process has to be meticulous and honest, but their voices are not
strong enough to realize any change. There is a lot of grumbling about the
government, but it has no effect on their actions.
A lot of attention is
directed towards terrorism nowadays, but this does not distract attention from 'peds'.
Now that communists, left-wing people and gays are no longer the scapegoats,
'the pedophiles' have been given that role. Even the concept 'sexual terrorist'
is coming up now. (BTW, the latter is also going on in Denmark.)
the icon for man-boy love, still has its web site and its bulletin and book
service. The bulletin, for those who cannot be on line, is also in several
libraries. It receives many letters; it is a two-way communication. There is
also still a support group for prisoners, some of whom say it is 'life saving'.
Although currently NAMBLA has just
enough members to do and to pay for this work, it
nevertheless needs more active members to do some of the tasks, eventually for
work on the background. For example, NAMBLA
needs translators for its web site. For press contacts and such tasks, NAMBLA
needs sophisticated members.
does not mention a specific 'age of consent' in its opinion papers. Each age
limit is disputable. Every human being has sexual feelings, be it different
according to the person, age, and stage of development. This does not imply
support for having sex with young children.
We know that at least two
authors in the USA were or are busy writing scripts for stage or film. One has
stopped the project, the other, still writing, is our guest at this meeting.
is a report from a member of the now dissolved DPA.
On the 4th of March 2004
the Danish 'intellectual', left wing daily, Information, published on its
front page a leading article demanding that the home page of the Danish
Pedophile Association cease to exist. The article was characterized by vehement,
sensation-mongering, "unveiling shocking" criminal activities, which
the association for pedophiles allegedly harboured.
But Kristian Ditlev
Jensen, Danish journalist, author and notorious liar, wrote untruthfully in Information
and did it intentionally. The facts were the opposite of Jensen's lies and
Association and its home page had never been indicted for any illegalities,
which a simple phone call to the police would have confirmed. It remains a
riddle why an otherwise serious newspaper like Information participated
in the common media smear, entirely lacking documentation of alleged offences.
BTW, also the Somalis and prostitutes in Denmark have been the subject of
witch-hunts by this and other media.
this a reason why it might be good to have one’s own Internet TV/Radio media
as well as independent magazines etc.? And while we're on the subject, why
shouldn't we also have extra Ipce meetings over the Internet - as telephone
In all fairness I must
admit however that I did once get the opportunity to correct misinformation in ”Information”
the 29th of July 2004, but the paper's conditions were almost impossible to
meet, and I was forced to shorten my article to 1300 characters including
intervals and reformulate it several times until it was toothless enough to be
acceptable to the editors.
Hurt and Offended
whose name is now Bjarne Skounborg, is no longer willing to be called
psychopath. That is why he is suing the known author and journalist Kristian
Ditlev Jensen, for having written in a leading article in the daily Information
on the 4th of March last year concerning pedophilia: »Put bluntly we're not
clinical psychopaths in the sense of Peter Lundin«
leading article was concerned with society's treatment of pedophiles:
common knowledge that a number of pedophiles have psychopathic traits. Peter
Lundin was the first case that struck me as characteristically Danish. But it
has never been my intention to call Peter Lundin a pedophile. No, because it
would be an insult to do so. I have no intention of insulting a person convicted
of murder,« said Kristian Ditlev Jensen.
Kristian Ditlev Jensen
& Information have recently been acquitted.
In the meantime Information
continued to murder the paedophile in full public view. In a
The fact is that in
Denmark there reigns a state of illegality where the pedophile minority is
denied the very protection which the letter of the law claims to guarantee them.
Save the Child
The organization Save
the Child is still able to plant ”information” about pedophiles in the
media. Astonishingly, this private organization is accredited with a high degree
of credibility, which can make one wonder when looking at the facts.
had a paedophile association in Denmark, which fortunately has dissolved itself.
But there is no political prohibition against such an association and that is
I have no personal
knowledge of this Charlotte Odile, fortunately, but it's apparently not the soft
light of intelligence that radiates from her eyes. She doesn't even distinguish
between incest and pedophilia. She characterizes herself as an
"incest-survivor", which is why she is of the opinion that pedophiles
Is EU harmonization good?
Here is a report from an
Italian citizen living in Denmark.
"This question may
sound meaningless, but my experience as an Italian citizen living in another
country, does however give meaning to an otherwise senseless question.
This was quite
astonishing because at that time I had been a resident of Denmark for 4½ years
and hadn't even once been in Italy. The police consequently ransacked my flat
and they confiscated about 30 kilos of so-called material evidence, especially
magazines, photographic books and not insignificantly two computers, a printer
and a box with 'sex toys'.
In accordance with the
Italian request for extradition I was supposed to have exchanged the
above-mentioned material between 1993 and 2001 with a particular person in
Italy, even though the wording of the extradition papers was entirely
insufficient. No description of the material evidence was enclosed, and the
person I was in contact with hadn't mentioned me with as much as a single word.
The charges were exclusively based on a few letters, which had been impounded
from this person living in Italy. Moreover, neither were any of these letters
enclosed in the extradition papers.
Italy lost, but one can't
say that Denmark won, because Denmark was forced to pay me compensation for
unjustified incarceration. I was only accorded a partial concession: 62,000
Danish crowns, that is 50% of that which I had requested and was entitled to.
However, I am now fully engaged in recovering 100% damages, although I've not so
far been very successful.
The 'New DPA'
Some members of the
former DPA have put the DPA's web site back on the Internet, but with this new
address: < http://www.danpedo.info/english/
>. These people more or less continue the work of the former group but now
entirely on the Internet.
On this website there are
written (text) and audio (Internet Radio) interviews by Schmidt who discusses
child-adult sexual relations with some of the best and most radical sexologists
and cultural personalities in Denmark. In addition to this there are links to
places like Denmark's National Radio where Professor and Dr. of Medicine
Sexologist Preben Hertoft speaks for 19 minutes on pedophilia and where he,
being confronted with present day hysterical criticism does not retract any of
his former positions on child-adult sexual relations.
radiobroadcast from Denmark’s National Radio DR 1 in 1982, “Daddy, may I
play with your pee pee?” (about incest, pedophilia, children's mutual sexual
experiences) was broadcast in Italian by professional radio speakers three times
to all of Italy in 1983, and it was mentioned in Corriere della Sera and Il
Manifesto prior to the broadcast. It has for the past four years been
available to the public for free on just-well.dk with 3-4 listeners every week.
A splendidly factual new book Women and Men has just been published
professor at the University of Copenhagen, Henning Bech, has just written a
concise scientific work, 396 pages of solid and constructive information, with a
46 page chapter on pedophilia: Inside and Outside the Home, Violence and
Power. Peter Schmidt will later review this book publicly here on this
forum and on his own www.just-well.dk
You might remember that
members of this self-help group in the east of The Netherlands were house-raided
and some of them arrested at the end of 2003. The arrested people had travelled
to Tunisia that summer and they and others were suspected of having possessed
and exchanged kiddie porn.
Thus, the other members
and the leaders of the group had to undertake a great deal
of work. Many letters were written to demonstrate that the group as such
was not 'a criminal organization'. That defence was successful. Only some
members who travelled together have been alleged to form a criminal
organization. The imprisoned members were each supplied with a small team for
help and visits. The group continued its monthly talk sessions and its help
among each other. Some members have left out of fear, others stayed to welcome
the new members.
In the course of 2004,
several trials took place. In each case, the prosecutor claimed unusual high
sentences of six to eight years and compulsory treatment in closed clinics.
However, in each case, the court’s verdict was far less severe. Thus, also in
each case, the prosecutor appealed. So we had the next series of court sessions,
now before the Court of Appeal, in 2004 and the beginning of 2005. The
prosecutor’s claims were lower, but the sentences were all higher than in
first instance. Now, in some cases forced treatment was inflicted.
JON still has its web
site in six languages at < http://home.uni-one.nl/plein/jon/
JON is part
of the NVSH, the Dutch Association
for Sexual Reform. The NVSH has
also encounter groups for pedophiles in Rotterdam and The Hague. The NVSH
has a good magazine, spread all over the country, but the organization as such
is small, with only a few chapters left. Several chapters have started their own
local organization. The national association still has a help-phone that works
In every case of a
suspicion of a moral offence, even if it is only having downloaded kiddie porn,
the suspect is asked to and sometimes forced to undergo psychiatric and
psychological examination, paid by the state. That's the first trend. The second
trend is that those 'experts' routinely report a mental distortion and advise
Paedophilic feelings are
seen as a severe mental distortion, even if all tests allow for the conclusion
that the person is normal. Having and expressing a vision other than that which
is politically correct will result in a 'cognitive distortion' conclusion.
Especially if you say you have no problems with those feelings, you are declared
to be an egosyntone paedophile, which is a very severe mental
distortion - in spite of the DSM that says that egosyntone paedophilia as
such is no distortion at all as long as one does not act upon it. It is
even worse if one does not express shame and guilt.
The experts are also
asked for the risk of recidivism. The trend is to estimate this always as very
high - in spite of research showing that recidivism rates in such cases are much
lower than the mean rates. In one case, the risk was estimated as 100%, which is
impossible in principle. This is reported and confirmed under oath by witnesses
who call themselves 'experts'.
Thus, the next trend is
to claim and to inflict compulsive treatment behind bars for as long as is
legally possible. Quite recently, new units named “long-stay” units have
been started for 'incurable people'. The “stay” can be life long.
This trend can especially
be seen in the way the officers of the rehabilitation, probation and after-care
services approach their work. Originally, their task was to help the person, but
nowadays in fact they do their best to keep the person behind bars as long as
The Association Martijn
association still has
Magazine intends to capture the beauty of teenage boys, and be available as an
independent information channel for boy lovers. It does not pretend to change
the world right now, but it tries to be supportive for those who are working on
that very task and entertaining for those who are less ambitious.
Web sites and forums
A new web site with a
forum is successful: "pedofilie.nl" - Dutch only - with a lot of
visitors and nearly without hate mail.
Thus, all this activity
is still possible in the Netherlands, including an “International Boy Love
Day" twice each year.
Supported by an extreme
right-wing and very small political party, there exists an "Anti-Martijn
Committee". There has been little activity, except now and then a small
demonstration, on two occasions prohibited by police, and a third when
permission was given to demonstrate in front of the house of the chair of
Martijn and to distribute leaflets in that neighbourhood. However, this has had
no negative consequences.
Now and then, there is a
short flurry of mails to one of - how to name it, let's say: - the grumble web
sites the Netherlands have. Those flurries come and go quite quickly.
An explicit anti-pedo
foundation is Foundation Soelaas, chaired by mrs Ireen van Engelen. The
foundation has no web site and the lady wrote only one book. She gathers all the
information she is able to gather. For example, she has stored all messages of
"Jongensforum", and she has been
She claims she is busy
writing further books on the history of the paed-movement in the Netherlands and
about abuse cases in the field of schools and education.
Most of her activities
are directed against individual persons. For instance, she has sent information
to people's employers, causing them in some cases to lose their jobs. She also
regularly sends letters to the Ministers, the Parliament, the prosecutors and
the national police office, giving information about persons with paedophilic
feelings or activity in the paed-movement. We are sure that none of those
officials takes her letters seriously.
General trends in The Netherlands
There is a strong trend
to the right wing going on here. Politicians follow this trend. Politically the
government can be described as neo-liberal. Social care has been diminished, and
many services privatised along the neo-capitalistic model. The trend is to act
as the USA does under the Bush government and the Republican majority. In
juridical terms, this means: more laws, more severe laws, higher sentences.
There are serious
conflicts between young people from the right-wing and our numerous Muslim
communities. The murder of the filmmaker Van Gogh by a Muslim extremist has
intensified this process. Both groups, the right wing and the Muslims, are
intolerant of gays. The famous tolerance of the city of Amsterdam has gone. For
teachers, it is impossible to out themselves as gay. The same holds for
youngsters in the schoolyard.
Most members of the
Muslim community are peaceful people, but a few people, especially young adult
men, have acquired extremist and fundamentalist ideas from the Internet and the
dish aerial. A lot of adolescents, especially Moroccans, behave in a quite
criminal and dangerous manner. Another problem group are the Muslim girls, who
are kept at home and bound by their chastity. But there are also many modern
Muslim girls who function well at school.
Remarkably enough, the
Netherlands is one of the richest countries in the world, with a lot of welfare
but a lack of well-being. People are not content; they grumble a lot. We call
this here "the great discomfort".
From Britain we
hear no news, except an endless series of proposals for more severe laws.
In Germany there
are only a few groups left after the infiltration and subsequent news stories
some years ago. A few groups exist but are not reachable due to their lack of an
address. The Munich group seems to have disappeared completely.
In Greece no
changes. No witch hunt, no progress, no groups: silence.
During the meeting, a
discussion took place about L'Association Ange Bleu in Paris, France.
"A bad and one-sided organization doing no good work", said one
member. "Oh no! A very good organization doing very good work! Read the
book! [*] See the web site! [**] Talk with the people!" said another