Part 4: Some projects and problems
1. The Bologna Project
A large number of documents have already been gathered. The need is for documents in order to offer the best and the most complete information to THE PUBLIC about the reality of problems children are suffering from. The fact that sexuality as well as sexual relationships
is not damaging and even not a problem for minors will appear as soon as the public is informed about the true situation of minor aged people in Europe as well as in other countries of the world.
Currently we are asking for documents (especially pictures/photos) about:
1. Violence of women towards minors.
2. Sex between adult women and minor aged males. Especially information
about ages of marriage in different countries as well as about religious
3. Books from the beginning of the century or from the end of the 19th
century, such as the books of Havelock Ellis or "The sexual life of the
child" from Moll, published first in Germany and around 1925 in the UK.
People were 100 times more free minded than now about youth sexuality.
4. Gay magazines about homosexuality with minor-aged males (or females) from the sixties and the seventies and sooner.
5. Information about censorship in books, magazines, movies, TV, etc. due to sex and more specifically due to youth and sex.
6. Special interest for documents about movies displaying young male or
female actors and that are forbidden or censored in such or such country.
Such movies are of the biggest interest because it becomes difficult to explain that minor-aged boys or girls are supposed to suffer worse than death in some clandestine sex movies for being filmed having sex without any violence when the same scenes (and even worse) are available in hundreds of other films available for everybody, including for minors, in most countries.
7. Documents about young criminals, especially young (less than 15) murderers and rape offenders.
8. As long as they are not asking for illegal documents, and since documents for Bologna can be of interest for other persons interested in these subjects, especially if they wish to make or publish their own research, and even for their own pleasure, there is no reason that the gathered documents cannot be shared with all fair participating persons in Bologna.
Many thanks to all the persons who wish to help Bologna.
Last:: please note that we are asking for documents and not for questions about Bologna. Participating persons have little time to reply to private questions motivated by curiosity. Please help the work and donít add to the work.
Please, donít forget that it is useful and even indispensable that the gathered documents can be PRINTED; Bologna doesnít wish to get documents only for the web. Documents have to be and will be effectively sent to students, journalists, associations (divorced fathers, etc.) that will certainly be used for printing or published in magazines.
Thatís why I tell you: the best way for saving, sending any documents FOR PRINTING IN MAGAZINES OR BULLETINS and, as well, FOR PUBLICATION ON THE WEB is to:
Save texts in a word processing format and pictures with 300dpi in TIFF or JPEG.
Angelo di Palermo
The members are not enthusiastic. "The public" is a very large target group. The angle is very broad. Very difficult to reach the victims of the Child Abuse Lobby. Which information should be given to divorced fathers? To falsely accused? Not every book is fit for Ďthe publicí. Difficult to select documents. Members are busy. One can search in the Ipce Library.
2. Prisoners help
Some members think that the prisonersí help does not exist. But it exists because several Ipce members maintain their own contacts on a private level. NAMBLA has started a project, but the project leader does the same now outside of the NAMBLA organization. He makes newsletters and sends cards and letters. Also in Germany there are two groups who help prisoners.
It seems not to be possible to start a pen pal service. It is very difficult to find pen pals.
A web site could be helpful to organize this better.
Some members say that they will help.
Peter from Germany refers to a web site < [Nupedia, but link is broken]
> Itís a project to make an encyclopaedia written by everyone who wants
to participate. One can send articles, letís say about whales, and then the
article will be peer-reviewed by the group of whale-experts. Everyone can
subscribe to one or more expert groups. He refers also to projects in which many
people work together with their computers to test or to make new software or to
resolve arithmetic problems. By sharing this encyclopaedia making work, we can
inform the public.
The membersí reactions, however, are critical. Isnít this a bit naÔve?
How much can go wrong? Wouldnít the hackers change every positive message? If
this works more or less automatically, itís easy to organize, but also easy to
4. The providers problem
The Ipce Webmaster introduces this problem. He mentions a series of web sites that have disappeared from the web recently. Everyone knows that Fpc.net has had serious problems for the last few months, was more off line than on line and has finally disappeared completely with all its web sites. Supposedly, people wrote complaints to the providers, who then closed the sites.
In The Netherlands, we have discussed this problem. We have thought to lease
or buy a server, but even then you need a provider. Then we have thought to
become a provider ourselves, but this requires much money, time and know-how.
Moreover, it will be dangerous, being an easy target for the hackers and other
enemies. Projects like Fpc.net with so many sites on one server at one provider
are too vulnerable. With one complaint or DoS attack (Denial of Service caused
by hundreds of messages), all sites are off line.
Also in Germany this problem has been discussed intensively. Also here, the
idea to lease a server came into the discussion. If you lease, the provider
should redirect a complaint to you. Only if there are many complaints,
the provider will end the lease contract after the time that is mentioned in
that contract. As long as your site is legal, expect no problems. You can
protect the server against DoS attacks.
5. The European Commission
The European Commission, more or less a European Government with quite a lot of power, has sent a proposal to the European Parliament: a Recommendation for the E.U. States against the Exploitation of Children. [See Documentation Service List]
Regrettably, "child" is defined as everyone below the age of 18 years. So, this proposal criminalizes all sexual contacts of and between young people below that age. This is criminalizing more than the half of the European youth.
Itís not an Ďage of consentí; this age differs by country and there is no minimum age proposed. Itís against Ďsexual exploitationí, broadly defined to include "seduction" and making sexually explicit pictures.
Will any government with this kind of law actually prosecute half of the countryís teenagers? No, such a law will be used against dissidents. The whole concept is fundamentally flawed.
Ipce members are asked to write to their European Members of Parliament.
The advice is to mention the teenage pregnancy rates; these are high in the Angelosaxical countries but low in the more liberal European countries.
Dr Helmut Graupner already wrote a letter, and so did the DGSS, (Deutsche Gesellschaft fŁr Sozialwissenschaftliche Sexualforschung Ė German Society for Social Scientific Sex Research. [See Documentation Service List]
PS: In the meantime, the European Parliament has accepted the proposal; there was scarcely any time between the proposal and the voting to accept it.